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Old 09-19-2016, 11:06 AM   #1
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So we already have an account with money. Further we can:
- bet and win till $2000 on balance and:
1) sell for 10-20% from balance (deposit without withdraw 15-20%. To withdraw is possible only on Visa CCs which were made not in USA). Maximum profit from account is about $400.
2) “lose” won money to a clean account (“lose” carded money is already not good idea). Today is actual loosing in DoN (double or nothing) and timplay of expencive tournaments with less than 100 players (you should have a least three carded accounts). Holdem on NL100-NL400 is almost dead so it’s not worth it if it isn’t “standard” working limits of clean accounts. Also you can lose from carded account till some “trust limit’ (it’s made by security service of the room and usually $20-$100) and withdraw on fresh-registered account – it’s stable profit for people who don’t wait “jack-pots” and just want to work and earn. Profit from $500.
3) Give for cashing out. Profit to $1000.
4) Make a deposit by yourself and withdraw (moneybookers, neteller, webmoney etc). Account in payment system should be made with the same info (country, name, addres) which you used during registration of poker account. Then make transfer to account for cashing out with linked credit card or bank account.

- do the direct transfer to clean account BUT you mustn’t order a withdraw on clean one! There are a lot of rooms where transfers work. In 90% won money are transferred without documents and shiet like this. I advise you to use one more account between carded and clean Till they will lock and investigate the chain your chances of success are growing.

- if you made deposit on promoted account (account with big history of playing and transactions) then you can win come money and right after that withdraw the money to the account where you’ve already made withdraw. Security service will start to work only after “fraud notification”. You can also make a deposit from CC on your own clean account from cards of another countries and payment systems’ accounts. Sometimes you’ll be lucky and your clean accounts will present you for about $1000 a week. For example in Titan was verified account with documents and some cashouts which lived without locks for about a month and there were some “dirty” deposits through MB merchant (read the first article if you don’t understand what I’m talking about), play “for vision” and made withdraw on WebMoney. I’ve got a lot of points and I decided to order a bonus – but security servise got up and locked the account explained that I had no permission to take this bonus.
Similar situation was in PS and FTP where deposits were made with good CC on promoted accounts. Then withdraws were ordered.

Now poker is dead for people which just want to press a couple of buttons and don’t invent any new ways. There are always enough bugs in different rooms – just you must be able to find and use it. Soon I’ll write the third part of poker manual – cashing out.
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Old 10-11-2016, 12:26 AM   #2
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hmmm... need try this. have more info about poker fraud?
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